Maischberger (ARD) – Beatrix von Storch in top form: "God instead of climate change"

The ARD talk Maischberger is about the federal election and Afghanistan. Beatrix von Storch (AfD) and Amira Mohamed Ali (left) exchange blows.

Frankfurt / Berlin – How weak is the USA as a superpower? And who were the losers of the week in this country, especially with a view to the Triell, i.e. the debate between the Chancellor candidates Armin Laschet (CDU), Olaf Scholz (SPD) and Annalena Baerbock (The Greens)? The cabaret artist Jochen Busse responded to the latter question in “Maischberger. Die Woche “in the ARD a quick answer:” I absolutely see Olaf Scholz as the winner. “

Much more difficult, however, is the first question, on which all the suffering of the people in Afghanistan depends. Sandra Maischberger fades in a symbolic photo, the green-tinged picture of the last US soldier on the way to the plane, which Sandra the presenter predicts will go down in history. Jochen Busse brings historical words from the publicist Peter Scholl-Latour, who died in 2014, to the debate: The journalist said 20 years ago that the mission was “complete nonsense”.

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With regard to the role of the Germans, both world editor-in-chief Dagmar Rosenfeld and Spiegel journalist Ann-Katrin Müller cautiously found words of praise for Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, who was the only one in the government to take direct responsibility.

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In order to shed more light on the role of the USA, Sandra Maischberger not only brought political scientist Christian Hacke into the studio, but also brought in former US security advisor John Bolton from the USA. He had already advised Donald Trump against withdrawing troops. “Why didn’t Trump actually listen to you,” Sandra Maischberger wants to know.

But Bolten does not allow himself to be criticized by Trump, but emphasizes that both Donald Trump and Joe Biden, who after all implemented the decision that had been taken, saw the world “through the same glasses” on this point. “And both were wrong,” says Bolton. He predicts Joe Biden’s foreign policy for the next few years to be weak from his point of view, but does not believe that Donald Trump will run again afterwards. The chances of winning are too bad. “And he doesn’t want to be a loser,” says John Bolton.

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Christian Hacke, on the other hand, considers it very regrettable that Joe Biden is now sitting in a “trap”. After all, it was not he who started this war on terrorism, but the Republicans with George W. Bush 20 years ago. But now Biden could flourish that the Republicans do not support his internal US reform programs. The Biden era could then “become an interlude between Trump and another Republican president,” says Christian Hacke.

The political scientist and John Bolton both disconcertingly agree that the war on terrorism is not over and that 9/11 could repeat itself. Even if in a different form. “20 years ago the Taliban were the problem in Afghanistan, today the terrorist hydra is widespread worldwide,” says Christian Hacke. The wars of the future could more likely be cyber wars, Jochen Busse had previously speculated.

ARD-Talk Maischberger turns to the Bundestag election: Who will be Chancellor: in?

The change of subject comes abruptly, but against the Afghanistan disaster, the local election campaign before the federal election in 2021 seems more like a minor problem. Nevertheless, the three invited analysts go back to the triall. Ann-Katrin Müller believes that Laschet’s aggressiveness in the debate did not match his previous stance. After all, he liked to portray himself as a level-headed successor to Merkel. “Olaf Scholz will be Chancellor,” Jochen Busse says. “It’s reading coffee grounds,” countered Dagmar Rosenfeld, “we journalists have already said that Trump won’t win the election”.

She prefers to take a closer look at the election campaign, which, in her opinion, is working with funds from yesterday in view of the many impending upheavals, and in which the CDU speaks of “red socks” and the SPD of “secure pensions”, similar to 1994. All of Annalena Baerbock’s role is quite contrite, and although she is convincing in terms of content, she says: “We managed to ruin her image,” as Jochen Busse notes with regret. Ann-Katrin Müller attributes this to persistent misogyny in politics, which Dagmar Rosenfeld cannot understand.

Before the election duel begins, Sandra Maischberger lets Ann-Katrin Müller quickly analyze why the AfD is currently not gaining more percentage points in the polls. The Spiegel journalist attributes this primarily to internal power struggles, and the party has “not made a clear decision on how radical it wants to be”.

Bundestag election at Maischberger (ARD): The left against the AfD in an election duel

The deputy federal spokeswoman for the AfD, Beatrix von Storch, is at least aggressive towards the left-wing parliamentary group leader in the Bundestag, Amira Mohamed Ali. Initially, it should only be about the question of how the AfD and the left stand on Afghanistan policy, after all, both had considered the deployment to be wrong. “But for very different reasons,” as Amira Mohamed Ali emphasizes. Beatrix von Storch, on the other hand, immediately draws a wide arc from Afghanistan to immigration to the labor market and energy policy.

In doing so, she paints a horror scenario on the wall in which the left allows refugees to immigrate to Germany in droves, giving them basic security, abolishing combustion cars and also getting out of gas, coal and nuclear power. “They are worse than the Greens,” is the conclusion.

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Amira Mohamed Ali, on the other hand, emphasizes that it is absolutely not the case that the whole world wants to come to Germany, but that there is a human rights obligation, not just from Germany, but from the entire EU. “When people flee from war and hardship, human rights exist, and Germany should also be prepared to accept them,” says Amira Mohamed Ali. The left-wing politician, who herself worked in the automotive industry for ten years, also makes it clear: “In the automotive industry itself, maintaining the combustion engine is not an issue at all.”

Sandra Maischberger finally wants to elicit a clear statement about climate change from Beatrix von Storch, which ultimately succeeds. “I believe in God and not in climate change,” says the AfD politician. When asked whether they want to govern, they answer “yes”. Amira Mohamed Ali adds, however: “If the conditions are right.” (Teresa Schomburg)